Thanks.

It's funny for I have yet to achieve a three day a/f; however, I have found a lot out about myself, and I have found that if I cannot do three days in a row (bad headaches by the third day). I will keep doing a day or two of a.f. and slow down my drinking when I do drink (last night I only had one glass and I really didn't want that but I had a headache and took my pill). This community has help me so much I could almost cry from relief. Thanks the encouragement (I am an island in my household...no one gets it)

Jaba, it is pretty much the same for me. But how can we expect them to get it? We are just wired differently.

Nal on!! Newlife

Jaba - we are all here for the same reason - and no, those that do not have a problem do not get it - my mum always made me feel very ashamed of my drinking - she did not drink - BUT she had an addiction to sweets - and to me they are different sides of the same coin - it doesn't matter what our addiction is - to us it is so real - and to those that do not suffer with it, they do not understand (I can take or leave sweets- LOL). And no worries on a more than 3 day run of AF - you will get there in the end - we all will!

Hugs, Maggie x

Jaba: You are going to be just fine if you always take your Nal. Mark my words. Hereditary alcoholism is pretty much a slam-dunk cure with TSM.

Seems to be scientifically true what Clarion said about those with the gene. They are MOST responsive in testing by far.
Steve.

I want to thank everyone for responding. I am just really scared. My doctor only gave me another 3 month supply (I didn't explain what I was really using it for). And she said that it isn't good to be on it forever. I spoke to another openminded doctor (again didn't explain the reason) and she said there is no documented cases of anyone being on it for long term; however, the chances of problems such as depression and liver issues are very possible. I told her I understood that, and I try to take a couple days off. She explained why taking longer days off are better.

Maggie, my husband, who has never had a desire to drink, is a sugar junkie as well. He has been having issues with food and even found out that he has a sensitivity to sugar cane (and grains...cookies and cake)! Does he stop the sugar (or the grains), no for those are impossible to avoid! So I understand what you mean. He doesn't get it, but if I would take away that sugar, maybe he would. When he gave up coke he had a heck of a time. He felt like he was having withdrawal symptoms (bad dreams, waking up with the sweats, shaking at times, and the cravings were unbearable). He is supportive, and he wants me healthy (I think he still feels I could beat it on my own). My son is a different story. He believes once a drunk, always a drunk and no AL with or without a pill (we had a screaming match the other night)! And yes, I can take sweets or leave them as well! Give me chips and salsa or vinegar and salt and I am in heaven!

I always take my pill (I am too afraid not to)! I think living with a drunk is just as bad as being one, for neither has control. I have been on both ends and that is why I am here. My mom always told me I was just like my dad...what an awful thing to tell an 5 year old watching her drunk dad...so, I guess I am not like my dad, for I believe this will work and I will never stop believing in the science!

peace of mind to all and thanks

Jaba

Jaba - try not to be scared - this will work for you - you are way too determined for it not to! And do not worry about running out of Nal - something will come along if you can't get it from your doc .....you can always get it on-line for one ....I wish that the medical profession would read up on it and realise how it works - it would make life a lot easier for us !

I am sorry about your son - I do not know how old he is but you need to tell him that until he has walked a mile in your shoes he needs to mind himself ! It is not worth getting into a screaming match about it - you know how hard it is to change ones self let alone anyone else. And it doesn't matter what he thinks - it is what you think that is important.

I know what you mean about the withdrawal from coke - my mum went on a fast and so didn't have any tea or sugar - and she had awful headaches and sweats too ..... they really just do NOT get it and never will - so no point in trying to hope they will - all they need to know is that you are trying - and they can read the book if they really want to! They need to be supportive - maybe try and suggest in a quite moment that if they did read the book they might understand better.

Yes I too lived with a drunk - my dad, but that was a terrible thing for your mum to say to you ! But she was not thinking right - she had a lot to put up with from your dad so was probably just lashing out at anything she could lash out at! I am really proud of you for staying the course in the face of so much adversity! You will get there - of that I am sure ! I have PM'd you ....

Hugs, Maggie x

You will be fine jaba, you are on a good thing with TSM and you can prove people wrong.

No no documented studies! I took it for around 20 months at which point I decided to go AF. I didn't take it every day for that time, hardly ever by the end and as time goes on I don't think you will either.

Thanks Maggie and UK blonde and all,

I know I am headed down the right path. I have been sober at times, but something always triggers my drinking again and that is why this method appealed to me. I wanted to be able to drink if I had a trigger and not worry that I will go down this path again. This community has helped me so much. I am glad I stumbled onto it. Its funny for I googled "how to stop drinking" and "how to slow down drinking" and this website popped up. If I wasn't able to lurk for months, and read how others were dealing with the process, I would have never tried it. It sounded too good to be true. But it does work! And this community of such nice and caring people is the biggest part of it working. Too struggle alone would be a silent hell for me (it was when I had my moments of sobriety)!

Thanks again

Jaba

You are not alone jaba we are all right here with you. No use trying to convince others who have never experienced what we have, especially when mainstream medicine and science just wants to bury its head in the sand and keep on with the status quo................which means rampant alcoholism and a very few who can ever beat it!! Just think how lucky we are to have find a rational and scientific way out. All it takes is time and adherence to the Golden Rule. Nal on!! Newlife