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 Post subject: Re: First week, self administered. Some questions.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 10:08 pm 
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Mason wrote:
steven wrote:
Brilliant! :) If I could,I would love to retitle this post to attract discussion from from someone who actually knows something. ARE there any experts here or just us inmates?



inmates...lol.

Okay, I got another thought. Say for instance one was wanting to go out with their buds. Okay about the 5 or 6 drink mark, ya start thinking, okay, this is all I want to pay for tomorrow.(via hangover) This is my buzz & I am cool with it and really don't want to go any further. So...you pop your dosage, (kinda calculating the hours, the half life etc. so in the morning the endorphin rush hits you) hang out, enjoy the buzz, dance a few, sip on one or two (if possible) if not some water...

Next morning, endorphin rush.... no hangover, have some good sex, an extremely healthy breakfast & even get in a bit of exercise.

That's the way to do it. Only an inmate could think up this **** :P

Now we're playin' with fire. Could almost see non-alcoholics doing the LDN thing just for the endorphin rush. And another thing...has the NAL effect on marijuana been discussed? Hmmm. Inmates are gettin' restless.

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 Post subject: Re: First week, self administered. Some questions.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:25 am 
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I've been reading a lot on ldn this morning. I have come to find out that people who have parents who are (or were) alcoholics, sort of inherit a "endorphin deficiency syndrome' and supposedly why a lot of folks become problem drinkers & opiate oriented.

Also, I found that a lot are using ldn for PAWS. Which is one of the major reasons folks don't stay sober. I know it was always my problem. I felt as much as **** off the alcohol and I did when on. I still had the depression, lack of motivation, fatigue, etc. Well, the ldn helps that. After a person gets through the first year of just dealing with the physicality of coming off of the booze or drugs, they have about 2 more years of dealing with PAWS. Really, man...who can do that?

Maybe that's why they have to stay in AA forever. The EDS never gets addressed.

Even though this drug hates my guts and I can only take the low dosage, I am feeling better with every dose.

Last night I took about 6 mg after a few beers just to see if it would shut down the "I need another one". It did... but my blood pressure went up. So, my next experiment is with 3 mgs.

I haven't read anything about nal and marijuana yet. If I run into something I will let you know.

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 Post subject: Re: First week, self administered. Some questions.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:55 pm 
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The whole Low/UltraLow dose thing is truly fascinating. I found a test of NAL with Marijuana for the purpose of identifying which receptors were affected by THC. The consensus was NOT opoids as NAL had no effect on "high". I have not experimented with that. Trying to keep the project clean. I'm 9 days in and have had 2 beers each day. My taste for beers has somewhat returned and I'm still not really missing the rush. I felt the NAL as a full body rush a half hour or so after taking it. Not unpleasant but may have had a blood pressure thing going on too. Now not so much. I don't recall ever a headache. Started at full dose 50mg. I think if I ever go to AF, I may continue LDN for the supposed myriad health benefits. One very scientifically worded article purported to explain the pathway for controlling cancerous cell growth with LDN. !!?. I'm recently retired and live alone so have plenty of time to obsess over this stuff. Always interested to hear your ideas and discoveries.
Side note...I have been sort of lying low at the beginning of this due to my distrust of drugs in general. Went for a motorcycle ride the other day and could NOT wipe big stupid grin off my face the whole ride. Felt sharp, alive and just stupid-happy. Big endorphin party, I'm thinking. :D

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 Post subject: Re: First week, self administered. Some questions.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:59 am 
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According to this, your age range has a higher percentage rate of having high blood pressure. From what I am reading, folks on the low dose are also running into high bp also. So of course I experimented. I took 1mg and it went up. Also, some heavy drinking folks can get some whacked out bp when not imbibing. I know I do.

http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/naltrexone+ ... pertension


This guy advocates starting with a low dose for alcoholism & working your way up until one finds their "control point". Which I believe will be my way forward.

http://alcoholcontrol.info/naltrexone/


Here is a youtube vid on how folks are making ldn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOekLFIvR7I


Hopefully you are carrying a medical alert in your wallet when on the bike?

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 Post subject: Re: First week, self administered. Some questions.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:27 pm 
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Very interesting stuff. I found a small red canister at Rite aid that is a pill cutter, crusher and container. About $5. Thinking if put under tongue to absorb quickly in emergency like nitro pill. Also, had not thought about med alert. Thanks.
Drank three beers last night, feel quite guilty today. Slept like a baby, though. :/

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