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joe12pack · **Joined:** Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:39 pm **Posts:** 626

greta stuff Ben. keep it up and thanks for posting this vid.

tambo · **Posted:** Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:42 am

Thanks Ben for posting that video. It's good to know that someone is spreading the word on TSM.

StJude · **Posted:** Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:56 pm

Great video Ben-and I enjoyed reading the comments thread under it. Keep fighting the good fight.

illuminae · **Posted:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:42 am

Just watched the video Ben, Good work!!!

My only criticism would be that there isn't just only one cure anymore. But the only cures out there are only scientific ones. People are having a lot of success with Baclofen and Topamax as well as Naltrexone.

Regardless thanks for keeping up the the good fight!!!!

weird-oh · **Joined:** Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:52 pm **Posts:** 176

Nalmefene seems to be pretty promising too. Looks like it lasts longer than Nal and isn't toxic to the liver.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nalmefene

Saint Vincent · **Posted:** Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:58 am

Illum, I think Ben is referring to TSM de-addicting a person versus bac and topa suppressing alcoholism by serving as substitute drugs. That's part of the reason you have to taper off those meds and take them indefinitely. We're splitting hairs here and in the end who cares as long as the goal of indifference to AL is achieved. If I wasn't having success with nal and was drinking at dangerous levels I'd add bac in a heartbeat and wouldn't care how it worked.

Dr. Eskapa referred to this in an earlier post.

DrRoyEskapa wrote:

Baclofen is a substitute drug for alcohol (acts to prevent GABA depletion caused by heavy alcohol consumption). It's fine as long as you keep taking it it may substutute for the alcohol which causes GABA depletion in the brain. It can produce withdrawal if suddenly stopped. It can be likened to methadone for heroin. Methadone does not cure heroin / morphine addiction it simply acts as a substitute drug to which you are addicted but may takes care of GABA withdrawal caused by heavy drinking.

You will however still benefit if you simply add naltrexone to your drinking.

Generally benzodiadepines do not go together with the Sinclair Method and we do not sanction de-addiction with naltrexone where benzodiadepines (e.g Valium, Librium).

All the best.

yogagirl · **Posted:** Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:59 pm

I just tried to watch the video and got a message that it had been removed by the user?????

illuminae · **Posted:** Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:49 pm

St. V, thanks for that clarification. I kept wondering about that and was never clear. The MWO book seemed to make it look like once you hit a certain point you wanted to quit drinking and never had to take the meds again. What you've explained tends to make more sense although it's a bit disheartening as I don't really want to be on topamax for the rest of my life!!

Saint Vincent · **Posted:** Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:21 am

Illum, I'm not as familiar with topa and the MWO protocol but Dr. Ameisen still takes a maintainence dose of bac and suggests he will for life in his book. Contrast that with Bob3d, Nick, Crown and Q who rarely drink and rarely take nal. Since you're doing TSM and topa you may get to a point where you don't need the topa anymore and if you are not drinking often you won't be be taking nal often. All this discussion is really of academic interest; as long as I'm good to my kids, productive at work, and I like myself I don't care what I have to do. Your progress has been great and others have had good success augmenting TSM with topa and bac. The advantage there is that if TSM is working then the bac or topa may not be needed indefinitely.

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